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Martin Maney wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 10:35:00AM -0600, Boulet Stephen-CSB046 wrote:
> > I'm considering installing debian over my mandrake system (and not
> > overwriting the data on /usr/local and /home).
>
> There could be issues with library versions for anything you built locally,
> as can happen with any distro/version change.
Shouldn't be a problem, since my /usr/local could just as easily be renamed
/usr/loki ;)
> I also have a /boot and a /
> > partition. All partitions except for the /boot partition are reiserfs.
> >
> > I want to keep using reiserfs. (Of course / and /boot will be erased and
> > rewritten.) Can I do this with the Debian 2.2r0 CDs that I have?
>
> I don't believe 2.2 support reiserfs, no.
>
> > My main motivations for switching to debian are for the apt-get
> > functionality. Also, I'm kind of pissed that all of the kde2.1 stuff isn't
> > out yet for Mandrake, but it's out for redhat, suse, debian, caldera, etc.
>
> Have you looked at Connectiva's port of apt that copes with RPM packages?
> And I note that Debian has KDE only in unstable (with only a few of the
> packages in testing as of this evening). While Debian's "unstable" is
> pretty usable, it does sometimes live up to its name, and I don't know if
> I'd want to run it on a machine I relied upon. But that's mostly ignorance
> at this point, as I've been too busy to run unstable on anything this time
> around. :-(
I haven't heard of Connectiva, but I'm glad someone tried doing apt-get for rpm
based distros. I would assume that it would only look for and install rpms, but
that would depend of course on having the rpms available, which is my problem
with Mandrake and kde2.1. They only really get the newer stuff in their next
distro, which can't be used yet due to glibc issues. Debian's unstable, on the
other hand, has stuff available now, for the most part.
> > Also, mandrake has put some effort into customizing and improving kde and
> > linux with its menudrake (easy kde menu editing) and mandrake-desktop
> > packages, automount, backports of the usb stuff to 2.2.x, optimizations to
> > apache, general pentium optimizations, etc. Are such things done by
> > default or at least possible without losing too much sleep with debian?
>
> How do you feel about building and installing kernels? :-)
I'm fine with it. But are the patches downloadable as debian packages? Or does
debian == slackware ;) ?
> Actually, I have for so long been in the habit of building kernels from the
> canonical sources (sometimes augmented by a carefully chosen patch or two)
> that I don't really have any idea what, if any, non-standard bits Debian
> might be distributing in the kernel direction. Offhand I know that the USB
> backport installs easy and clean, but with Debian's unstable you could
> probably run 2.4.x, so why worry about backports? I know they do NOT build
> with pentium optimizations: Debian is a full-spectrum x86 distribution.
>
> BTW, which subset of pentium did you want to optimize for? They differ
> considerably, you know. Apparently the PIV demands weird new tweaks
> (compared to the PII or PII) to deliver its promised speed increase...
I would be optimizing for a PIII. I was intrigued after finding the following
about compiler flags:
<<
-fno-exceptions - Disable all exceptions handling. Most programs don't
need exception handling enabled, disabling will greatly
decrease disk size and
memory use, and increase speed. For example, compiling Qt
with
-fno-exceptions, will cut binary size in half, and make KDE
programs launch and
run much faster. This is also true for other programs.
>>
But I'm sure that if this stuff is important to you, you can get source
packages and choose your own compiler flags, right?
-- Stephen
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